Rock Center
LOT Polish Airlines Flight 16 bound for Warsaw, Poland from Newark, New Jersey is an unprecedented incident in the annals of aviation. The landing gear on the Boeing 767 would not come down, meaning the wide-body plane carrying more than 200 passengers might have to crash land on its belly.
One Polish pilot, Captain Tad Wrona, pulled off a remarkable feat of airmanship during the 2011 flight. A good portion of the risky flight was caught on tape.
Editor's Note: Lester Holt’s full report airs Friday, Feb. 8 at 10pm/9CDT on NBC’s Rock Center with Brian Williams.











What kind of crap is that?!?! Some interview with a dude that was on the airplane, mixed in with some stock footage of an airport, some poor CG, and then you don't even show the landing??!?! NBC sucks.
They showed the landing, you must have dozed off!
What they hell are you talking about ?? They showed the landing.
Great Show!! Best Show on TV!
For Aviation Questions: Why are airports not better prepared for a plane without landing gear? Foam?? There are n/t more safety devises? A Lexus has better safety equipement in anticipation of an emergency.
Why don't airplanes have a second set of landing gear?? Even if they were Training Wheels, that would be better than nothing...Boats have back up engives...
SW, extra landing gear? Maybe you could share your expertise that would lead you to make this statement and your assertion that there should be more safety devises.
Watch the second clip. That's the other 'half' of the story. This whole thing could have been covered in a 30 second segment but they managed to drag it out over two full segments.
Planes can be made with all kinds of 'extra safety gear' but they would be so heavy that they wouldn't get off the ground. I guess that would prevent them from crashing, wouldn't it.
They showed the landing, you must have dozed off!
Mi. Willich please purchase a new TV, the show we saw had fabulous video of the landing, shoots being deployed, passengers running away. It was a well done story using an amazing amount of story specific video and interviews with a number of participants, including the reluctant pilot.
The video online certainly is incomplete and perhaps will show the final outcome. LOT airlines and their pilots are some of the finest and the very best pilots from Poland in the world! 14 trips for me to Poland, but this is known fact of LOT pilots..proud of this indeed!!
Dottie, did you watch the second part? It shows the landing and follow up interviews.
I do agree too that on TV, the program on this story was well done and good interviewsGlad others enjoyed it too! Good exposure for Polish Lot airlines and their team/pilots!!
The show was great tonight. So nice to see some interesting news rather than the usual "reality" shows and crime dramas. Now if you can do something about the dreadful TV on weekday mornings. For those of us who only have part time work, the morning shows are nauseating. I used to love the Today show, but now it is just a couple of drunk women being stupid. Again - I really enjoyed the show tonight.
I've flown LOT so many times that I can't count! We stopped flying in 2007 when the airplanes seemed so antiquated and very turbulent flights. I own a home in Poland, my husband is a Polish immigrant, and I have met John Paul II. Polish people have enormous faith and love God, to me this is without doubt a modern day miracle! Bogu dzięki,
This is a complete non-story! I'm glad you all liked it, but the pilot a hero? C'mon man?! Runways are not foamed anymore. The plane lands exactly like it would WITH landing gear, except it lands on the engines. There are procedures in the checklists for this event. Once the fuel is shut off, there is no danger of a fire. Fire trucks are all around either way. It is low risk, predictable and one could almost say "routine" - except "Rock Center" needed something with sex-appeal for a tv show. Airplane emergency landings have that. Pilots will most certainly get a chuckle out of the notoriety of the Polish captain who did what any pilot would do - without fanfare. The only saving grace from this story is that there was no "tragedy" to focus on. Instead, the producer managed to find some people who were scared to death so they could explain how they thought they were breathing their last - when they clearly were not... A truly heroic captain would have calmed his passengers with the notion that they would touchdown softly and skid to a stop. It would be noisy and smell like scraped/burned metal, but the evacuation would be routine and un-rushed. Still, they found people to claim they were sure they were going to die. A story just short of pathetic....
I was most interested in what the show left out; the reasons for the failures.
Based on the results of several google searches, it appears the primary landing gear system failed due to a faulty hydraulic line and the backup system failed due to a circuit breaker being incorrectly set.
Apparently there are numerous lawsuits presently underway. Answers will be forthcoming.
Yes!!! This is what I wanted to know as well. . . before I get on another 767. Did your research show any more close calls related to this problem in 767s?
Dear Former Flight Instructor:
Yes!! Thank you for doing the research. Did you come upon any other close calls on 767s related to faulty hydraulic lines?
My research was minimal; a couple google searches.
I didn't find anything else unusual regarding hydraulic lines, however I wasn't looking for it either.
According to a picture of the circuit breakers I did find, this particular breaker is near the floor and could possibly have been kicked.
In any case, checking breakers seems pretty fundamental.
Hello! There is a web exclusive piece that explains what caused this failure, which you can find here: rockcenter.co/Xqw4vW
Thanks,
Stephanie Haberman, Social Media Producer, Rock Center
I was most interested in what the show left out; the reasons for the failures.
Based on a few google searches, it appears the primary landing gear system failed due to a faulty hydraulic line and the back up system failed because a circuit breaker was incorrectly set.
Apparently there are a number of lawsuits presently under way. Answers will no doubt be forthcoming.
There is a web exclusive piece that explains what causes this failure, which you can find here: rockcenter.co/Xqw4vW
Thanks,
Stephanie Haberman, Social Media Producer, Rock Center
Is this news? Did it just happen? Or did it happen in 2011? Why cover it now, without mentioning the date?
I totally agree with 767 Pilot and others who say this was essentially a 'non-event'. Comparing this event with the Hudson Miracle is nothing but bunk. In that event, both engines were damaged by birds shortly after takeoff and the decision making process took seconds, not hours like in this story. Additionally, Sullenberger didn't have a smooth, hard runway with emergency vehicles waiting either. He is justifiably called a hero but even this story's pilot says he was 'just doing my job', and he did.
He had full control of his aircraft, flew it to a smooth touchdown on a long enough runway and that's why he is so reluctant to be called a hero. As the multiple videos show, this type of landing is very easy to execute and there is no reason for a disorderly exit once the aircraft comes to a stop. No one would have had any 'scrapes and bruises' if the cabin crew and passengers had been properly briefed in the 'hour plus' circling the airport prior to touching down.
I have done this type of landing dozens of times in a full flight simulator and, as previously stated, other than some grinding noise and possibly the smell of hot metal, there is nothing to be worried about. Sure, if for some reason something goes wrong and the aircraft breaks apart, things would be much worse but this is highly unlikely in a simple 'gear up' landing. Panicked flight attendants made this successful landing a bad one by yelling at the passengers to 'get out', as shown in the story.
There was little chance of explosion or serious fire as the fuel was almost gone. The 707 that ran out of fuel and crashed on Long Island years ago showed how you can slam a plane into the ground with no fuel and still have people survive since there is no fire. This was a controlled 'slide' on a runway with waiting emergency vehicles all around. It was really sad to see so many panicked passengers hurling themselves out of a perfectly safe aircraft that had completed a successful landing.
This was actually such a 'non-event' that it has taken this long to make it to the news over here, it seems. Certainly, it was an interesting story but the bigger story would have been 'why'. Almost 2 years later and they still don't have a definitive answer? I'd say there's a bigger story there than in the actual landing itself.
The landing gear is operated by the center hydraulic system - only a loss of pressure would have caused a complete refusal to extend normal - OR - the alternate gear system is operated electrically (with numerous sources including 3 generators and a battery) - so only a loss of ALL electricity would have prevented electrical power from operating the door latches holding the gear in the wheel wells. The landing gear are not held up hydraulically, they rest on the gear doors which are held closed by a latch which is activated by electricity (in the alternate mode). I could be wrong - about the things I don't know here - but can't help but think the hero pilot messed up to allow the airplane systems to degrade to the point where neither hydraulic nor electrical power was available to that circuit. It's not a great mystery, someone will know for sure with a cursory examination of the systems...
Agreed. What was that joke about the fully automated airliner that was being developed? There would be only one man and a dog in the cockpit. The man was there so the passengers would feel safe and to feed the dog. The dog was there to bite the man if he touched anything.
To make this more PC, replace 'man' with 'person'.
Sadly, most accidents are caused by human error of one kind or another.
Helllo! There is a web exclusive piece that explains what causes this failure, which you can find here: rockcenter.co/Xqw4vW
Thanks,
Stephanie Haberman, Social Media Producer, Rock Center
To The 767 Pilot and the Airline Mechanic and Pilot:
So . . . no need to worry about the design of the 767 re: hydraulic and electrical power delivery?
If there was, you'd have seen this happening many more times and more often than this once, two years ago.
There is a web exclusive piece that explains what causes this failure, which you can find here: rockcenter.co/Xqw4vW
Thanks,
Stephanie Haberman, Social Media Producer, Rock Center
I can't believe this show is still on the air.
Is this a Brian (thank you AS ALWAYS) Williams perk that NBC is stuck with?