By Jessica Hopper
Rock Center
Originally published Feb 8, 2012. An encore presentation of 'JFK's Intern' aired Jan. 3 at 10pm/9c on NBC.
Mimi Alford says her 18 month affair with President John F. Kennedy was glamorous and fun, but also says the experience revealed a darker side of the king of Camelot.
“I was sort of swept into this web,” Alford told Meredith Vieira in an exclusive interview on NBC's Rock Center with Brian Williams. “The handsome president, his charisma, his magnetism.”
“Webs are sort of gentle, in a way. They’re controlling, but they are gentle,” Alford said.
Half a century after the affair, it’s still difficult for Alford to talk about the relationship that she says began when she was just 19 years old.
“I don’t think what I did at 19 was bad,” Alford told Vieira through tears.
“I’m remembering how enthusiastic I was and how much fun I was to be with,” Alford said. “I wasn’t after anything. I wasn’t after a job. I was just a young girl.”
Alford says that her sexual relationship with the 45-year-old Kennedy began in the summer of 1962, four days into her internship at the White House. She describes the affair as one where she and the president never kissed. Even in their most intimate moments, she called him Mr. President, never Jack, Alford says.
“It wasn’t a romantic affair. I don’t really remember the president ever kissing me and it, that makes me sad. I don’t remember really kissing him either and I think really that I didn’t, I certainly didn’t learn how to have a real relationship through that relationship,” Alford said.
Now 68, Alford has written a book, Once Upon a Secret My Affair with John F. Kennedy and its Aftermath, sharing explicit details about her relationship with the president. She describes Kennedy as both “boyish” and “shy” around her, but also writes about witnessing his demons.
While Alford and Kennedy’s affair began in 1962, she first met the president a year earlier. In 1961, she was a senior at Miss Porter’s School in Connecticut and was the editor of the boarding school’s newspaper. She wanted to interview her school’s most famous alumna, Jackie Kennedy. She didn’t get the interview with the first lady, but she was invited to visit the White House and interviewed Mrs. Kennedy’s social secretary, Letitia Baldridge.
While visiting the White House, she met Kennedy briefly. A year after her article was printed, she was a freshman at Wheaton College in Massachusetts when she received a surprising offer of a job as a White House intern. Alford had never applied for the job.
“I was excited about this job. It seemed like a miracle,” Alford said. “And I was a little bit wide-eyed I think, not knowing exactly what to expect, but full of enthusiasm and hope.”
Parts of Alford’s story are impossible to confirm because the people involved are no longer alive. However, NBC News talked to several people tied to the JFK administration who confirm that Alford was a White House intern and had special access to the president. An oral history by JFK White House aide Barbara Gamarekian references a beautiful intern named Mimi who Gamarekian suspected had an affair with Kennedy. Gamarekian is no longer alive.
The First Encounter with Pres. Kennedy
The debutante from a prominent New Jersey family headed to Washington, D.C. in the summer of 1962 to begin working in the White House press office. Four days into her internship, Alford says JFK aide David Powers invited her to go swimming.
“He said, ‘A group of us are going to have a swim at lunchtime. Would you like to join us?’” Alford said. “I think I was probably so taken in by being invited to go do it that I didn’t think too much about it’s odd, should I be doing this, should I not be doing this? I thought, no, I’ll just go ahead and do it.”
Alford says she was joined by two others in the pool, White House staffers Priscilla Wear and Jill Cowan, who were playfully dubbed ‘Fiddle and Faddle.’
“And while we were there, shortly after that, the president arrived. So I was sort of surprised that the president was joining us. No one had said the president was going to join us, but he went and put on his trunks and came into the water,” Alford said.
Alford finished her swim with the president and returned to work.
“It didn’t seem unnatural. It sounds funny to say that, but it really didn’t seem unnatural, just because everybody was friendly and this is what we were doing and I went back to work afterwards,” Alford said. “No one said anything.”
NBC News’ calls to Priscilla Wear to confirm the story were not returned.
Alford says that a few hours after her first swim with the president, she received another call from JFK aide Powers. This time he invited her upstairs to the White House residence for a welcoming of the new staff.
“There was a pitcher of daiquiris on the coffee table and Dave [Powers] poured me one,” Alford said.
It was the first time she’d ever tasted a daiquiri.
“And then the president arrived,” Alford said. “He sat down, very relaxed, put his feet up on the coffee table and sort of joined in on the conversations…Obviously these were the people that he liked to relax with and then there was I, which seemed a little odd, but I didn’t think much about it.”
Alford says Kennedy singled her out and asked if she wanted to take a private tour of the rooms his wife had recently redecorated.
“There was nothing in my mind that thought anything other than what I was being offered which was a tour of what the White House looked like,” Alford said.
Kennedy led Alford on the tour, which she says ended in Jackie Kennedy’s bedroom.
“I felt the president getting closer and closer to me,” Alford said. “His way didn’t make me nervous and he came close, very close, and looked me right in the eyes and I actually, he then put his hands on my shoulder and sort of guiding me down to the edge of the bed, sort of the corner of the bed and I think he may have even said to me, ‘Is this all right’…I don’t really think I knew what he was talking about.”
Alford says she was a virgin who had only kissed a boy when she was in eighth grade.
“Obviously what did happen was I lost my virginity right there. Then, I think I went a little bit into shock,” Alford said. “He kept asking me if I was all right and I was all right, there was not a lot of conversation.”
In her memoir, Alford writes that Kennedy “maneuvered me swiftly and unexpectedly and with such authority and strength that short of screaming, I doubt if I could have done anything to thwart his intentions.”
Decades later when Alford confided in friends and family, some questioned whether she was raped by Kennedy.
“I don’t consider it was rape. I don’t,” Alford said. “If I had said no, I think the president would have stopped, but I didn’t…there was no coercion.”
A few days after her first tryst with Kennedy, Alford says she was invited again to the private floors of the White House.
“I had just a little bit of second thoughts, not enough to keep me from going back,” Alford said.
Alford describes this as a pivotal point in her relationship with Kennedy saying that it marks the beginning of their secret affair.
Rubber Ducks, Cooking with Kennedy and Special Hair Treatments
In her book, Alford calls her sexual encounters with Kennedy varied and fun, describing the president as a sensualist who also enjoyed being completely silly, especially in the bathtub.
“He had a collection of little yellow rubber ducks and they were in the bathtub and rubber ducks became sort of part of the game,” Alford said. “We had races with rubber ducks in the bathtub. I know he was not being president when he was with me.”
She says Kennedy taught her how to cook eggs in a double broiler the way he liked them. They listened to records.
“I think maybe I reminded him of a younger time in his life,” Alford said.
She says that she even learned how to help Kennedy keep his hair perfectly coiffed by performing special hair treatments.
“I ended up taking care of the president’s hair. He had this, he had that wonderful hair and it always needed to be in great shape and so I learned how to do the head treatments,” Alford said.
Alford says that she sometimes performed the hair treatments in the Oval Office. Alford says that during her internship, she would sometimes spend the night at the White House, but nobody would ever acknowledge the affair.
“Secret Service might have known, but nobody ever talked to me about it,” Alford said.
She traveled on occasion with the president, flying on the support plane in her role as press office intern. On one trip, she says that she ended up at a party at Bing Crosby’s home in California.
“It was exciting. It was glamorous, it was fun,” Alford said.
During many of her trips with the president, Alford says that she often played the “waiting game,” spending hours in a hotel room waiting for Kennedy to pay her a visit.
“I should have felt guilty. He was married to Mrs. Kennedy, but I didn’t at the time feel guilty because I think I felt this closeness to him,” Alford said.
Looking back now, Alford realizes she was at the beck and call of the 45-year-old president.
“I can see it’s not a good place for a 19-year-old to be in a relationship that’s so imbalanced and with such a powerful person and an older man and at the beck and call,” Alford said. “I see how sad it was.”
Kennedy’s Request to ‘Take Care’ of Aide, Ted Kennedy
While Alford says the president made her feel special, she also says that he had a “dark side.” The most disturbing incident occurred at the White House pool, Alford says.
JFK aide Powers was sitting poolside while Alford and Kennedy swam. Alford claims Kennedy whispered in her ear that Powers looked tense and asked her, ‘Would you take care of it.’
Alford writes in her book, ‘I knew exactly what he meant. Take care of it. That was a challenge to give Dave Powers oral sex. I don’t think the president thought I’d do it, but I’m ashamed to say that I did.”
An emotional Alford told Vieira that the incident still makes her sad and angry.
“It makes me angry because I didn’t just splash water in the president’s face and tell him to get lost,” Alford said. “It makes me sad because I did it.”
JFK aide Powers died in 1998, before Alford came forward with her secret.
Alford claims the president asked her to “take care” of his brother, freshman Senator Ted Kennedy, in the fall of 1963 towards the end of their affair, but she refused.
Pregnancy Scare and the Cuban Missile Crisis
When Alford returned to college in the fall of 1962, she briefly panicked that she might be pregnant. She says she contacted JFK aide Powers.
“He said that he would put me in touch with someone who would put me in touch with someone who would put me in touch with someone down the line if I should need help and luckily I didn’t,” Alford said.
Alford says that she and Kennedy continued their relationship. She says that they devised a nickname, “Michael Carter,” for Kennedy to use when calling her dorm.
When a phone call wasn’t enough, Alford says the president would brazenly make arrangements to bring her back to Washington, D.C. She claims that even returned to visit the president during the tense night before the Cuban Missile Crisis was resolved.
“I think the president wanted me to be there,” Alford said. “I really didn’t spend much time with the president. I was just there.”
She didn’t sleep with the president that night.
Alford returned to the White House as an intern again in the summer of 1963. She was in charge of photo sessions in the Oval Office which meant she saw the president almost daily. Since Jackie Kennedy was pregnant, Alford says she had limited access to Kennedy after hours.
Alford never met the first lady and she says Kennedy only discussed his family with her after the death of his newborn son, Patrick, in August 1963. Patrick Kennedy died of an under developed lung syndrome shortly after birth.
As the fall neared, Alford was falling deeper in love with Tony Fahnestock, a college student she’d been dating since the beginning of 1963. She kept her relationship with Kennedy secret from Fahnestock. When she and Fahnestock became engaged, Alford says Kennedy congratulated her.
“He was happy for me and sort of joked that, ‘Oh, well, you’re not going to leave me are you?’ So it was a kind of complicated thing for me, but he was happy that I had met Tony.”
Alford says that Kennedy gave her two gold pins with diamonds in the center of them as a present and an autographed picture that said, “Warm regards and best wishes and appreciation.” He joked that no one would ever know what he was really appreciating her for, Alford says.
Once she was engaged, she says the dynamics of her relationship with Kennedy shifted from being sexual to more of a friendship.
Kennedy’s Assassination and Burying the Secret
Alford says the last time she saw Kennedy was 15 days before he was assassinated. She says that they saw each other at the Carlyle Hotel in New York City on Nov. 15, 1963. Alford claims Kennedy gave her $300 as a wedding gift and promised to call when he returned from Texas. Seven days later, the president was dead.
Alford heard the devastating news when she and her fiancé were driving to his family’s home in Connecticut.
“I could hardly breathe. I was in so much pain,” Alford said. “Here was Tony who I was going to marry, who I loved, there was the president who I had loved, who I had spent 18 months with, he was dead. The feelings were just explosive inside me.”
Her grief stunned her fiancé, prompting him to probe about her relationship with Kennedy. She confessed the affair. It was the first time she’d told anyone.
“Tony’s reaction was emotionally violent,” Alford said. “His response was so devastating that at that moment what happened for me was I just shut down emotionally…because what Tony said to me was, ‘you and I will never ever talk about this and you are never to tell anybody else.’”
Alford buried the secret and says that she shut down emotionally. She did her best to cover up her past, never mentioning her summers as a White House intern on resumes and getting rid of gifts Kennedy had given her. She cut up the autographed picture and pawned the gold and diamond pins.
“It’s very hard to live without telling people,” Alford said.
Alford and Fahnestock married in 1964. In a sadly similar twist of fate to Mrs. Kennedy, Alford lost her first baby to the same under developed lung syndrome that had taken Patrick Kennedy. Alford went on to have two healthy baby girls.
No Regrets and Moving Forward
Alford says that her emotional shutdown impacted her marriage to Fahnestock, leading to their eventual divorce. Still, she doesn’t regret the affair.
“I don’t actually regret that I had the affair with President Kennedy. What I regret is that I was shut down emotionally,” Alford said.
Alford told Vieira that she wishes she’d told her parents about the secret relationship.
“I think they died not knowing all of me,” she said.
The story of Alford and Kennedy’s alleged affair was first mentioned in 2003 when historian Robert Dallek mentioned a beautiful intern who was believed to be one of Kennedy’s paramours in a biography of Kennedy. When the New York Daily News tracked her down, Alford submitted a written statement acknowledging the affair, but did not speak publicly.
Shortly after the story became public, she met her current husband, Dick Alford. Mimi Alford says his encouragement helped her confront her past and led her to write her memoir, even though she knows she will have critics.
“People are going to judge me. There’s nothing I can do about that. All I can say is that, for me, to write this book, Once Upon a Secret, was extremely important. I had to do it…I can’t separate the Kennedy name from it. This was part of the story,” Alford said.











Why speak of this now, unless it is just to sell the book
Exactly. If this is true...why hurt his daughter like this. Rotten thing to do for personal gain.
Meridith did a great job. But, she showed sometimes a questionable look on her face over what she was hearing.
Come on people it's no surprise JFK was a player. This story is not surprising. The fact this woman waited so long before coming out I think shows she wasn't looking for fame or anything from the Kennedy's. If she was she could have done that a long time ago. Heck she is 69yrs old and wants to be free of something she has been holding onto for 50 years give her a freaking break!! I applaud her for speaking up and dealing with all the critics I am sure she is bound to encounter.
I love the reporting of both Brian Williams and Meredith Vieira but this time I think Rock Center goofed big time!! Why not choose from thousands of more worthwhile stories such as of human, animal, or professional heroes or stories of people with mammoth courage; maybe something to INSPIRE people in our troubled world. Do you think we are all gossip and tabloid junkies??? Why gossip about someone who is not here to have his say!! I may NEVER watch this show again. Stay out of the trash cans, Rock Center; they smell bad!!!
What is so unbelievable about this account. There are men (and women) out there that are so narcissistic, and part of that narcissism is charm and intelligence. They are so charming. I dated one for 14 years, and believe it or not he looked alot like President Kennedy. Yhis personality flaw in itself is unbelievable but totally true. look up the definition! They lie so well and charm so much that you start doubting yourself. My relationship ended and when I was packing his home office up I could count at least 35 women he was seeing, emailing, visiting on travel trips etc. Sleeping with most of them. Guess what? Everyone is still friends with him...he is THAT charming. He loves his children and the good ol" USA very much and I believe that is genuine until he disagrees with them about something important, then they disappear in his brain. Believe it people. These types of people really exist.
I think this is all too unbelievable, there is no one left alive to verify this ever happened. I hope the Kennedy family sues for liable. Shame on NBC for airing this story. With all of the news stories of the day this is what we do? Tear down someone after 50 years ! Slanderous, this show is nothing more than a tabloid show.
How sad this is what happened to NBC, this is why I watch Charlie Rose and Nora O'Donnell in the morning. I used to watch the today show, but after the Ann Curry incident I stopped watching.
I agree with JDave........ NBC, Meredith Vieira, & most of all this Alford
women should be ashamed. I am close to the same age as Alford and know that during the early 60's most women would never think of doing such immoral things. Kennedy is dead, let him rest in peace. I hear that NBC is worried that ABC is passing them in the ratings, well after no apology from NBC regarding Nancy Sniderman's comments about Christmas and God and now this sick interview, I will be watching Good Morning America along with so many others.
I agree, the Anne Curry incident was not cool. Why did this lady have to wait 50 years? SMDH. So the president snuck around and was a womanizer... Why do this to his family? Then she has the nerve to say that she does not regret the affair with the president! I think she just wants everyone to know that she was screwing the president! Affairs happen ALL the time and women do not get on national television to broadcast the BS.. Just let this die, the president and EVERYONE who can verify that this is actual fact is no longer alive to do so! SO just let it be.
Embarrassing show much suited for the lowest tabloids.
It's a very personal thing.She doesn't care about him.What's the benefit now and why are you entertaining it?There are people people starving and hungry. Shame on ABC!
*NBC
errr, it was NBC.
ABC??? Really?? At least know what network you are watching!!!
First of all Dipstick, it was NBC, not ABC. Secondly, if UR wondering why now, U were following her discussion commensurate with the network. Third of all, your analogy with "people people starving", really ???
Somethings you should just take to the grave with you.
Unbelievable.....after all these years....she has a real problem! She has no self-respect and absolutely none for anyone else. Maybe it's her age!!!
This is all to sad how to ruin name of a dead person, for 15 minutes of fame.
I think it is beneficial to all people, but most especially women, to know this story because Kennedy's behavior was typical, textbook Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Many, many people--mostly male--are "two-faced" like this, presenting a charming, authoritative personality to the public, but covertly treating their own families badly and behaving like a dog behind closed doors. So many publications claim that only 1% of men have NPD, but I must strongly disagree. ALL of the men in my family exhibit the symptoms strongly, and I count my lucky stars that I am blessedly divorced from my ex-NPD. ALL humans need to know, understand, and recognize this personality disorder, which is just one step short of a sociopath.
Ms. Alford statements and motives seemed totally credible to me in the Rock Center interview. My take on JFK's probable intentions for his request to Ms. Alford to "take care" of his friend at the pool was that he wanted to test Ms. Alford's "worthiness" as a decent woman. I'm convinced he deeply wanted her to say no to such request. She was young and immature, and impressed by the President; we all make mistakes that we later regret.
This is not journalism this is bad television, now i know why I switched to CBS !!! Charlie Rose and Nora O'Donnell are the best morning team. I used to watch Today until Ann Curry was let go.
GREAT Interview! Merideth this was an important story! Its sad that MiMi is unaware that she was groomed then raped then pimped out by a gang of predators! I wonder who else was preyed upon by other Presidents. I don't doubt a word of it! GREAT story!
She was raped, and pimped out...that is what bothered me...he is no different than some of the other men in the Kennedy family, affairs are one thing but I think this crossed that line.
Why is this necessary to know at this point? This woman makes me sick! So she was a HO to the president whose wife was never there. Not new, not shocking, just silly. If you gave me this book I would use it to start a fire in the pit.
REALLY NBC? WHY?
Too disturbing for words on multiple levels...
I think she had to tell the story. It is hard to keep a secret for so long. But, I also feel she still has some type of sick obsession even years after his death...it's a little creepy how she speaks about him.
Excellent job Meredith.Good questions,while remaining classy.
I commend her. Obviously it was hard to keep something like this a secret for so long, but she did. He was the President, and she was no body... how could she speak out about the feelings she contained. She contained them out of respect. Her story was being told by someone other than her and she deserves to be the one that shares it with the world. Not for money but to bring her peace and the ability to transcend. I think she is honest and noble.
I understand ur sympathy for the lady but please do not use the word 'noble' to describe her. Truth be told, she's not the only one solicited by the rich & powerful. There's a word called 'NO'. Its bad enough that she carried on such an affair for so long and now she feels she had to force it down our thoat. I'm not one to judge pple, heaven knows I'm a sinner too however she can confide in her clergy or her God and leave it at that. She's hurting pple including her kids & grand kids. She's obviously a self centered person as usual, regardless of the fact that she seems now well comported. smh
Why talk about it know to the world. Is it self gratification and cleansing of yourself ?
Then you should have spoke to your clergyman
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The Real Question is why would NBC even put this story on the air!? what is wrong with our media? all these great documenterys on food companies and consipracies on JFK and they choose to have us remember a great president through the story of a ho? with the evidence? Who was sucking off his friends too?? THIS IS LAME JOURNALISM AND I HOPE SOME PEOPLE AT THAT NETWORK START REPORTING STORIES THAT AMERICA CAN ACT ON.
Beacuse Judith Campbell had a son.
Are you kidding me people? What this man did, not only to this young and once innocent intern, but to countless other women, and to his wife was utterly disgusting. She reasonably explained why she is speaking up now. Camelot didn't exist! It's a fairy tale now, and it was a fairy tale then.
Cudos for her! I thank her for her story. Shame on the President for taking advantage of a young naive lady.
It's interesting that most of the women believe her and the guys think she's a fame seeker-- women know exactly what MiMi talking about!
You know this is nothing new to most of us that have followed the Kennedy's for years. The Kennedy's Series even portrayed him as a womanizer. Before he is anyone else, he is a MAN, don't forget that. He was cursed with generation curses from his father. He was the same way. It shouldn't take away from who he was as a President. He will always be and has always been one of the greatest Presidents. Stop always trying to destroy a reputation.
@ SJD 4446, You said:
"Somethings you should just take to the grave with you"
I say:
That's something you may do, but others may think differently...;-}
People should truly know who it is they are idolizing. She has every right to expose it--particularly since others told her story first. We cannot continue to paint mythical and magical pictures of our celebrities without considering their true colors.
Absolutely!
I found it appalling that this woman felt it necessary to share this sordid story, if indeed it is true, not just fantasy.
In my opinion, a woman for whom I would respect would never, ever inflict more pain upon
the Kennedy family, in particular Caroline. This family has suffered more tragedy than most.
As with anything else, it is always about money, isn't it? I hope no one buys any book she would write.
"In my opinion, a woman for whom I would respect would never, ever inflict more pain upon the Kennedy family."
Yet, somehow President Kennedy is worthy of respect? By all means, we MUST protect the reputation of a man who raped and pimped a naive young woman.
It is amazing that this society still unabashedly blames the victim. SHE is the evildoer for conducting a lewd act upon the president's friend. That the president suggested it and then watched....a MINOR DETAIL!
She was not raped! As many have said, She could have said "NO". and now, after all these years, she prefers to trash a dead man and hurt his family. For what? To sell a trashy book.
AND, this was NOT a single incident. According to her, she met him many times, of her own free will. There is such a thing as "self respect".
When I was Growing up in the 50's and 60's there were many temptations, but being brought up with the love of God and my parents, what I feared the most, was hurting my parents. Obviously, she did not think about God or her parents when she agreed to do these things over and over.
as an individual at the age of 45 and dealing with issues in my past that I have never dealt with I can understand why she did this, to be free with end result truly being happy
Many of us have made mistakes in our life, but we don't continue to do them over and over, we try to learn from our mistakes and though these mistakes can haunt us forever if we do not do something about them, there are so many ways available to us to deal with these issues, but hurting other people should not be one of them and attempting to make money off of a shameful situation, as this was, is not one of them either.
i'm horrified....his daughter has to hear this.......why would you aire this????
Why would a man with a wife and children DO such a thing in the first place? Sick, sick man.
Yes, we ALL ask that same question. WHY WOULD HE DO THIS TO HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN? But this woman said that she DID NOT REGRET this affair with the president. She is just seeking attention now and looking for her 15 minutes of fame. NEVER is an affair okay. Two wrongs do NOT make a right.
You're right, an affair is never ok. But I don't see it as an act of fame-seeking on her part. I think it's poetic justice that his disgusting behavior is finally brought to light after he dehumanized this woman (and probably others). Why should he be idolized, yet she is called a whore?
I think he groomed her so well that after 50 years, she still doesn't realize she was raped and emotionally abused.
As was stated in the interview, someone else outed her so why not tell her story rather than let someone else make things up. It is historical fact that JFK was a womanizer and that the press, staff, & secret service just kept quiet. I found the interview very interesting.
By the way Simply C I believe that you were watching NBC not ABC.
Right -- a great interview and wrapup with the 3 authors. In spite of his weaknesses, he was a great leader, probably influenced by his father more than we want to admit. He was on meds that perhaps changed him and increased his testoterone! I read the book on publication, and can just imagine a young, innocent woman living in a fantasy in a bigger than life situation --and enjoying it, but carrying a secret for so long had to be a burden for her. I think her daughters encouraged her to publish.