By NBC's Peter Alexander and Ronnie Polidoro
Rock Center
The Romney brothers could soon become America’s first sons. Ranging in age from 31 to 42, their names are Craig, Ben, Josh, Matt, and Tagg – but you may have seen them spoofed on Saturday Night Live as Taggart, Tanner, Tigit, Targalac, and Tic-Tac. Which one of them is the biggest mama’s boy? NBC’s Peter Alexander found out during an interview for an upcoming Rock Center story airing Thursday, July 19 at 10pm/9c.
Just like any group of brothers, they like to pick on each other, even during their first sit-down interview of the 2012 campaign. They say Josh, the middle son, is the mama’s boy.
“Thanks guys. Let’s take it easy here,” replied Josh, one of three Romney sons who works in real estate. Another son is a doctor. The eldest runs a private equity firm like their father once did.
They are all married and have a combined total of 18 children. If Romney wins, he’ll have more grandkids than any sitting president in U.S. history.
The Romney sons grew up in Belmont, Mass., an affluent suburb outside of Boston. All of the brothers attended the same private school and later the same college, Brigham Young University. Three of them went on and received their MBA’s from Harvard, just like their father.
The boys were raised in a Mormon household where Saturdays were devoted to service. And all five followed their father’s footsteps by going overseas on two-year missions to spread their Mormon beliefs.
They are campaign veterans, on the trail stumping for their father since he first ran for Senate 18 years ago. But when it came to Romney’s second run for the White House, four of his five boys didn’t want him to run.
“I didn’t want him to run again. I really didn’t,” Matt said, “I thought you know, you gave it your best shot in 2008, you felt like you had to do it, you had to go and give back to the country and you tried, and they didn’t take you, so let’s move on.”
Matt and the others eventually came around. And again the Romney 5 have joined in Mitt Romney’s march to the White House.
Along the way, they have heard about how their father has struggled at times to connect with the public. The campaign hopes the sons can help explain some of their father’s more idiosyncratic moments, for example, when Romney told an audience, “It just feels good being back in Michigan. You know, the trees are the right height.”
“He’s a little goofy,” said Tagg, “That’s part of his charm, I think.”
But the biggest criticism is that the wealthy Romney family can’t understand the economic challenges facing the average American family. The sons insist their family and their father are not out of touch.
“We've obviously been very blessed,” Craig said, “And because of that we feel a responsibility to make sure we can do everything we can to make this country as great as it can be.”
They say they are not put off by the accusations, even within the Republican Party, that their father is aloof and a flip-flopper.
“His true identity will come out and we know what a great father he is, we know how much he loves the country, we know how much he loves our kids,” Matt said, “It’s not ambition that’s driving him. It is really a desire to give back. and this is how he thinks he can give back. And we agree.”
Editor’s Note: NBC’s Peter Alexander’s full report ‘The Romney 5’ will air Thursday, July 19 at 10pm/9c on NBC’s Rock Center with Brian Williams.
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Does the United States need a president with goofy charm?
So he's the Lou Costello of the Presidential candidate world?
Flip Flopney is as charming as a used car salesman...
Please let him be struck by lightening before the convention.
wasn't one goofy president in recent history enough?
goofy may be charming for a daddy, but not a President!
So this is a nice story, but REALLY, how about Obama blasting small buisness as undeserving since guvment really makes the world go round, not extremely hard working small buisness owners. What a Dumb Ass, his true colors could not be brighter!
Just like complaints of racism would never work with Obama on an international stage, goofyism would not work with Romney.
I mean you can't be goofy with foreign leaders. They'll take advantage for their own country -- as they should. You can't be too country like Bush was. There's no excuse.
When Romney attacked the kid back in school with his gang of thugs while they held the kid down, and Romney cut the kids hair off...was that the goofy charm son was talking about?
I don't think we need a goofy President. This office may LOOK like a goofy office, but it is deadly serious and requires someone who takes it that way as well as understands it that way. I think he is naive, and as I've said before, another puppet, and in IMHO does not have the chops to do this job. We've been there and done that before with goofy Presidents, and look where it got us. We don't need another one, ever.
Stars,
Boys will be boys...not as bad as Obama hanging out for 20 years in a racist anti-semetic church AS AN ADULT!
We have one now with oily charm.
when 4 of your 5 kids dont want you to run, and their reasoning is "they just didnt want you back in 2008" that should be your clue that no one really wants you now either.
and why do arrogant people believe "the only way" they can "give back to their country" is becoming president?
I can think of a million other ways Mr. Rich could give back to his country...the first, stop moving your wealth off shore. the 2nd, stop investing in companies that simply chew up and spit out workers, moving production offshore...and the third, take that wealth and create REAL BUSINESSES that emply REAL AMERICANS...building things HERE IN AMERICA.
nah, he'd rather become president and it's a lot easier that way to fleece america via wall street...
Why do all of them look like dykes?
Charming like an angry frat boy with entitlement issues.
Been there, done that. 2001-2008 W
Why does MO look like the missing link??
Did he want to "give back" when he was off-shoring American jobs and investing his money in banks in Geneva and the Caymans?
MR doesn't have a need to do that unlike your dear leader.
Since Mitt Romney (and the rest of the neocon military-industrial crowd) seems to have a penchant for invoking and fomenting war around the world for geopolitical hegemony, my only question is:
How many of Romney's able-bodied sons have served in the armed forces, and will volunteer to go to war in the next big engagement?
Or is dying in a war just the legacy of the poor?
The Gay one, he'll be the only one with courage and now that the military is gay friendly he can be accommodated equally.
What a fine bunch of holier-than-thou Democrats you folks are !!! So tolerant and respectful to others, unless others don't happen to be Democrats.
As I recall...Bill Clinton's daughter was treated respectfully just as Mr. Obama's have been. Yet George Bush's two daughters took their share of rips and now Mr. Romney's sons will get their share.
Must be nice to be holier-than-thou.
Give it a Rest! What a horrible thing to say. What kind of person are you?
Does the president of the United States have to be a Marxist??
Instead of giving back, how about bringing back? Bring back all those jobs you successfully off-shored making the Executive Officers rich and the middle class poorer?
Out of touch? 5 sons thru Private schools, BYU and 3 to Harvard when most people can't afford to put their 1 kid through city college?
No not out of touch at all, not even in touch with reality LMFAO.
Democrats have nothing good to say about what Obama has done as President and nothing at all to say what he did before he became president because he did nothing. Romney ran a successful company, ran a successful Olympics and ran a successful Governorship of MA. Obama only ran........for office. So Democrats ave been attacking silly things.
Romney is a Mormon and has raised his family that way, Obama hung around Jerimiah Wright until the world realized that Wright is anti American. Obama is known to drop his friends when they become politically incorrect or uneccessary, like Oprah, Kennedy, Emanuel, and Wright.
The only good things Obama has done as President has been to continue the anti terror policies that Bush put in place. Obama the candidate criticized enhanced interrogation to obtain valuable information, while Obama the President executes terrorists. Don't get me wrong, these terrorists deserve to be fried, but get some information to save lives first.
Romney has the right character and attitude to be a leader. People have their own political party allegiances. But when it comes to experience and character, there is no comparison.
And don't tell me about this controversy as to when Romney left Bain. He left others in charge in 1999. Like any other closely held company managed by a strong leader, it took a few years to "officially" remove his title. And yes Bain sent jobs overseas, like any smart company that didn't want the tax structure, overpaid union workers, and bad attitudes of liberally entitled people.
Under a capitalistic government, jobs can return to the US if we remove the barriers.
Come on Tony...we all know liberals are incapable of error...and least that's what they keep telling me.
Only the "little people", i.e. those are "helped" by their petty little government programs they swindle others out of their $ to finance.
What has obama ever done? He has had a silver spoon up his ass about since he was born..... I would love to see his real grades in college, and his real birth certificate, and not the phony ones shown to us..... You can tell he was raised by communist and muslims by the shape of this country today under his Marxist policies...... great job oh communist hussein.... great job
I'll take the "goofy" President, with a sense of humor and a strong "Dudley Doright" character to that of a Socialist/Commie Traitor any day!!!
timelessfun......do you even live on this planet, or do you spend all your time on Planet Limbaugh drinking kool-aid? Seriously, where does this cr*p come from?
Romney is looking better and better everyday, especially as the Obama staff continues to show how much they don't know. For instance Bain capital. They are using events that happened after Romney left Bain and blaming him for it. They are ignoring the truth that companies from Bain take FAILING companies and reorganize them to make them profitable. All of these companies would have closed LONG before they actually did. Let alone, some NEVER closed because of the actions of companies like Bain. Face it, Obama's record on job creation simply does not exist. Creating "temporary" jobs does not count. That's what the stimulus did, create temporary jobs. Temporary jobs will not sustain the American economy.
Who cares if Romney is 'goofy'? Like that is a legitimate reason to not vote for someone. He is a incredibly competant businessman and a good man which is what we need in the White House. Obama is still a big mystery and was a community organizer who hung around with America hating radicals and never held a real job which is why this economy is a mess; he doesn't understand the free market. He keeps attacking the rich like they are the problem in this country instead of realizing that the government is the real problem. Romney supposedly outsourced jobs while Obama is a big union lover. Talk about outsourcing jobs! Nothing can be made inexpensively when unions are involved, and government places so many regulations and restrictions on business that no wonder they are going overseas! (Too bad we can't ship the public sector workers overseas so we could keep more of our hard earned money)
Romney 2012!
Dudley Doright was a Canadian and Romney is from Mexico like his daddy and his daddy and the one before that. All his investors when he started Bain were from South America not the United States. Surprise surprise he offshored and bankrupted previously successful US companies.
Interesting. getting backon track to the actualy article -- so what we can take a way from this story is that Mitt's boys like him. That is wonderful. He is rich and has given them the best -- good for them! Funny -- did not see anything about Obama in the story --but that id not stop the "right'leaning' here from going into rants against him. For the record -- Obama was not born rich and got good grades in school -- He might not have personal shown each and every one of you "nay-sayers' here his personal transcripts -- but by the same token -- I have not personally seem Mr. Romeny's or any of yours either --- I waiting... tick , tick, tick... Some on e.. got something to hide? Please... Rush, Sean and Fox News are not "reliabale sources.. just mouths for pay who are enriching themselves by misinforming their follwers. Read and think for yourselves.
timelessfun
I agree he has done nothing. Doesn't say a lot about character if they accept the Nobel Peace Prize for doing nothing and write an autobiography when they have accomplished nothing.
However, I really don't think Obama is Communist or Marxist, he has a Socialist bend.
And all of the Romney boys work high-level positions in Capital Investment firms or Real Estate development, except for one (Ben) who is a medical doctor. Huh... imagine that. Ah, the benefits of the privileged class. Connections, connections, connections. A whole different set of good ol' boys - the WHITE SHOE BOYS.
No front-lines for these fellows, no way. Thats only for the huddled masses. These are the guys who plan and make the wars... follow the money.
Another Romney automaton heard from.
Real trouble is that Daddy Mit is also a pathological liar. No charm in that.
I'll vote for Romney when Kolob freezes over...
Mitt may be able to act goofy now but, when negotiating a peace treaty; working to create jobs, in the USA or stimulating the economy, "goofiness" on a resume is not a qualitifiaction, employers would use to hire an employee. Especially, one who would be CEO of the United States.
I have faith in President Obama. He has tried to deal with Republicans who continue to block every attempt the president has tried, to improve our economy. President Obama was able to accomplish missions, 'W' took credit for but failed to follow through.
I do not want another pretend president, who takes orders from Karl Rove or the Koch brothers.
As for Mitt's son, what do they know about hard work, college loans or doing without. They have been privileged and if they ever had to prove their own worth, I think they would be a lacking, as their dad.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
Do Americans want Substance in knowledge in a President or Arrogance, wearing an empty suit; hounding day after day about Bain Capital, and not the Poverty, Unemployment, no Plan to get jobs back at 8.2 per cent, 15-22 per cent (California)--or the housing market on a roll again. The Government owns the United States--it is written in the Constitution by the Framers, that the US is a Capitalist Country.
Charm, Charisma, and BS does not work for being a President of the United States, Leader of the Free World.
For those of you lauding Romney's business acumen, do you ever wonder why we don't hear alot about his record as Gov of MA? He's running for public office, not a seat on a board. Compare apples to apples, look it up. When he left office, that state had the highest rate of taxation, and was 47th out of 50 in job creation. That's just a start. Both parties suck through a straw. However, if Romney is elected, it's back to Dubya's policies, and we DO know how that worked out. Start another war, and revert to trickle down voodoo economics. Think about it. The so called job creators have had their low taxes for years, using the excuse that they create jobs for us. Well, they still have Bush level tax, so where are the frikkin jobs? C'mon, someone want to try to blame that on Obama?
I am sure Mitt is a great host and fun to hang with at country club dinner parties. Got some real nice homes too! But what exactly is he going to do to fix this countrys problems? Go back to the policies of the Bush years?!! So far his only answer is "I am a "successful" rich business man and I am not Obama" and iteverything that has happned to this nation in the last decade is all Obama's fault (After all, everything was great until he got in to office by actually being elected by the American people -- unheard of -- not the way we in the GOP do things) -- Sure Mitt is a real charming guy - and Aronld was a charming pig on "Green Acres" -- but why should I vote for him? For all his faults I will still go with Obama.
Romney goofy? He's more along the lines of a buffoon, "W" was goofy, and just like Obama he can't do comedy worth a sh!t. He has all the personality of a wet dishrag. What I would like to know is why his sons didn't go abroad for two years with the military instead of the Morons?
Obama looks like a 1st grader next to Romney...all talk...no records..empty suit. next!
captn curtass:
Remember, "The Private Sector is doing Very Well". Who said that?
This is Comedy. Out of Touch with American Society. Personality does not run the United States.
Did YOU serve in the Military? Please answer. "Hanging from a tree, and looking down from a perch".
Judy
So all of those jobs Obama created (none) all of those peace treaties he negotiated (none) all of that economy he stimulated(none) maybe he should have been goofy.
I could never convince you that you should vote for Romney, you have too sizable of an investment in Obama Bumper stickers on your car.
As to taking credit for missions, Obama is the king of taking credit where he should not (you would think he pulled the trigger on OBL), while he is also the king of deflecting blame to the past administration.
As to Mitts kids, I too envy their ability to go to Harvard with no loans. This system of college education sucks. I have a kid at an Ivy League and I qualify for 0 financial aid. But that is what comes with success, a lot of money. You have been taught to hate success and money. That is what this administration has taught. Success and wealth are bad, meanwhile this administration goes on spending and increasing the Bush deficit by 100%. Bush was a lousy manager of the budget, but Obama has exceed that.
Yes I did. '69-'73 including one tour in Nam. You're right, personality doesn't run the country and, as far as I'm concerned, neither should the Dems or Repubs. They're ALL up there in D.C. acting like a bunch of children squabbling in the school yard or the sand box accomplishing nothing. The only thing they'll understand is to vote them all out. Maybe then they'll see the err of their ways. Then again, probably not. I give them all a no confidence vote.
Are you honestly that stupid to think Democrats think that? What a self-rightous moron. No, Democrats don't hate wealth and success especially when they are honestly acquired. What we do not like is a slanted playing field where the wealthy buy the government to ensure that only the wealthy remain wealthy. Where the spoils are theirs but the risk is ours. This administration has not in any way stated that success and wealth are bad, what they have stated is that those who have enjoyed success are not paying their fair share and they are not, they use to pay about 90%. We can gladly return to that. Wake up and turn off the Faux Noise. Do a little real research. If you have kids in an Ivy league school, ask them how, they are likely quite a bit more enlightened than you appear to be.
Harley Chic...
Let's not forget that those temporary jobs were mainly in the public sector. We all know that it is the private sector that creates the revenue that makes public sector jobs and programs possible. Looks like obama really doesn't care about the middle and poor classes after all.
Yeah, George W was also "goofy." Think I'll pass. Besides, he just seems creepy to me. And I don't want one of the seven dwarfs or one of Mickey Mouse's best friends in the White House. Just the way he treated his dog is enough for me to see that he's nothing but a sociopath who has no empathy or understanding for anyone besides himself. Only a sick individual would think that anyone would find that story to be funny.
@JJ-1311450
Looks like I'm just a terrible, evil, awful, mean man. I don't know what got into me. Maybe it's my complete and utter disdain for him.
C'mon FtBrgtrnd
After the worst economic downturn since the depression, we've had months of job growth...the stock market has more than recovered...and we're on our way out of Afghanistan.
If the GOP had even tried to work with the Dems, the economic turnaround would have been faster and stronger...but beating Obama is more important to you people.
And no, us Dems don't hate success and money (and I've work hard to earn a modest piece of the pie!), what we hate is greed, selfishness, and corruption.
captncurtass:
Well, congratulations for serving--There has not be an outstanding President since Bill Clinton---
Forget Monica--there are now worse things to worry about in this Country that affect all Americans. The sexual encounters seem minut compared to what's happening now.
Because they were arrogant, spoiled little drunks. You become a spectacle and the media will shine that very light on you.
dudogger:
Leave all Presidents of the US, and the First Lady's children, or adult children out of Politics.
They did not choose the "Political Life of their parents.
Obama as president HAS LOST OVER A MILLION JOBS WITH PUBLIC MONEY. ROMNEY CREATED MILLIONS OF JOBS with PRIVATE MONEY end of story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jobs were created in China. Jobs were destroyed in the U.S. That is the Romney record. With Obama, Jobs were created in the private sector and lost in the public sector. That is Obama's record to date.
Goofy would be very refreshing and 100% improvement over the anti-American traitor we have now.
I'm sure all the family's he ruined at Bain would just love his goofy charm.
he didn't ruin bain if Bain was a money making company they wouldn't have been bought off all those people would have lost their jobs anyway!
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I'm talking about the people at the companies he brought down while working at Bain....Are you really that dumb?
diamond...
Will you be talking about all the people who found jobs and careers working at places that were brought up by Bain Capital ??? Or did Bain never create a single job, ever, for anyone, because they were so busy taking jobs away from everyone else.
If Mr. Obama had been successful at his job, he and his minions wouldn't be talking about Bain...they'd be talking about their candidate's successes. So I guess we'd better get used to hearing about Bain.
I see dumb, Diamond Dave, but it isn't in others. ;) You should educate yourself before speaking and the following adage might be helpful:
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt!!
Tony - I suppose you were a roaring success in your first IMPORTANT job and left veryone wondering where you got such genius! Runnng a government saddled with massive debt and greed doesn't even come close to your job! So give it a rest!! Nothing can can be accomplished over night!!
Fair enough....If he's so proud of his time at Bain then I suggest he release his tax returns from his time there and show America how much he profitted from each job he created.
That might make things a little more clear. I think we have a right to know how "successful" his jobs plan was and at what cost. I don't think Romney or his minions would want to look at that part of it.
Profit is good at all cost.....no matter how many people you destroy. The gospel of Lord Mitt Romney.
If he can do to China what he has done here... maybe he'll outsource Chinese jobs to America's poor.
In January, Andy Sullivan and Greg Roumeliotis published a story in Reuters on how Bain drove a Kansas City steel plant, Worldwide Grinding Systems, into bankruptcy. The piece is a must read. It has many aspects of our current political debate: lost jobs, health insurance, pensions, labor unions, government bailouts, and the phenomenon of “profitable failures.” To summarize, in October 1993, Bain Capital became majority shareholder in the steel mill that had been operating since 1888. Armco wanted to sell the Kansas City plant. Jack Stutz and other Armco managers were looking for backers to help them buy it. They spoke to GE Capital, which, in turn, contacted Bain Capital. Bain merged the Kansas City mill with another in South Carolina before the new entity declared bankruptcy in 2001. This led to some 750 layoffs and a $44 million federal bailout. Bain walked away with $12 million on its $8 million initial investment and at least $4.5 million in consulting fees.
I believe Bain Capital also took the mill from a 13 million dollar debt to over 350 million debt before bankruptcy but still managed to leave with a profit.
Dave, did you know that the companies that failed under Bain were in distress when Bain bought them? Do you understand what that means? They were goners anyway, Romney took a shot that he could bring them back. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But at the very least Romney gave those people 6 - 12 months more of a paycheck than they would have had if Bain hadn't stepped in. He failed, but at least he took the shot. So lets keep yapping that crap about Romney destroying jobs. He didn't destroy anything that was not already broken before he got there.
For those who claim the media is "liberal," this puff piece non-news item is all pro-Romney, meant to distract from his lies about Bain, etc. Who cares what his sons think? What would you expect them to say, that their dad is a bad person? Total public relations article...the author might well be paid off by the Romney campaign.
hmmmmm Miryn...let me just change a few things around in your post and then you'll have it right...do you know the country was in distress when Obama became president? do you understand what that means? This country was a goner and Obama took a shot that he could bring it back. Sometimes it worked, and sometimes it didn't. But at the very least Obama gave America more jobs, more paychecks, killed bin laden, saved the auto industry, and gave us all healthcare. So lets keep yapping that crap about Obama destroying jobs. he didn't destroy anything that was not already broken before he got there.
Diamond Dave:
Nothing is permanent in this life. Have you ever lost a job? I am sure we all have because that's life. A business has to be profitable or it will fail. The private sector world is different from the public sector. You have to be good to keep your job in the private sector. In the public sector, you don't have to be good because the unions protect you. Unions foster mediocrity and laziness.
djslim: Amen
The President of the United states does not "create jobs' in the private sector -- that is what the business are suppost to do (with their decade of tax cuts and incitives) -- still waiting job creators! Am i disapppointed in some of Obamas resuls -- sure, i am. Is it al his fault? Some yes, much no. When you have a oppostion party who only goals for the last four years to make sure the elected president is not successful in doing the things he was elected to do -- ands than balme him for both "doing nothing" and doing too much" -- Presient Obama is not perfect, by any strench -- but Mr, RMoney is not the answer -- The policy of the GOP over the last decade have failed -- bring them back even more so will NOT solve anything now. Government is not a "for-profit corporation" == you can not "fire" the Congress or the working class -- (sorry Trump). We tried tax breaks for the richest -- all we saw was bank and corporate failures, record profits. more outsorcing and less employment for the working (and noe not working, once was) middle class. There gotta to be a better way -- but Mitt is not it! (but it's really nice to know that his kids still love him anyways). Come up with a better candidate and I might consider voting for him/her --until then I will have to go with 4 more years of Obama --maybe he can achieve something. I can only hope!
David:
You have not done your homework re: Bain Capital---just rhetoric.
Bain Capital is a very successful Enterprise Business. Look it up--
djslim and slightlyold...
Well if Obama, as stated by you, already had a broken system to work with and now 4 yrs later the system is worse off (and it is)...we may need someone else "to take a shot at it" since Obama is failing and not getting the job done. Does that about cover it. I think so!
djslim and slightlyold...
Hmmmm, if your logic is correct then what you are really saying is that bain capital was very successful along the same order as obama. Or are you telling us that obama is as bad as bain?
I will take a private equities success rate over obamas any day. Obama has owned this economy since 2009. The economy wasn't pretty in 2009, but who ever heard of a nations leader (?) saving public sector jobs over the private sector?
To make matters even worse, he takes his "lazer focus" off the economy and promotes tens of thousands of new regulations for the private sector to conform to.
LOL, it is like using a whole roll of TP to wipe your azz and then expecting the toilet to flush it. Hope and change indeed.
diamond dave 66 - How many family's have Obama and the Democrats DESTROYED AND ENSLAVED?
Of course his family members support him, if they dont they might get disowned and actually have to work for a living.
Maybe you should actually read the article. Then you might see that three work in real estate, another is a doctor, and the eldest runs a private equity firm. I'd say that's a little harder than your job of 'jumping' to conclusions and 'running' your ignorant mouth.
You do know the oldest who runs a private equity firm started that company with money his father gave him to invest right?
Big,
.....and he would lose all the money if he wasn't talented. If private equity is so easy why don't you do it.
probably because big john's dad isn't mitt romney, and he probably didnt go to private school or byu on daddy's dime. and also probably doesnt have access to mitt's money to start his own firm.
They are working for a living.
davec,
Typical liberal.....can't do anything unless something is handed to you.
Suure they are, Patti. That's why they can take months off at a time to travel around in customized motor homes stumping for dad.
westbury,
typical conservative...can't prove a post wrong, so attack the poster.
Big John you say that like it's a bad thing. When did becoming and being prosperous become a bad thing? Isn't that the American Dream, to do better than the generation before you and to have your children do better than you did?
For the life of me I can't understand how half the country can whine about those who have more than them. When did American become a bunch of whining, sniveling, jealous little brats?
Instead of criticizing and demonizing Mitt Romney for doing well why not go out and work harder so you can do just as well or at least better so you can help your kids start a successful business.
Honestly I don't get it, Obama says if you are successful someone gave you a hand, someone being the government. That's good help. But if your own family or friends or just you become successful that's bad.
F--- you, westbury64. Stop being an apologetic prick for someone with far more wealth than any of us will ever realize. Give me 7-figure funding to play with, and I'll turn it around into a profit in no time. There are countless people in this world with enough intelligence and "talent" to make money work for itself, they simply just do not have the money to begin with. Everyone knows it takes money to make money, at least in the short term.
Now, if you can prove that Romney's sons have not been given any funding or special consideration (thanks to their heritage), and have toiled to become successful in the private equity industry on their own accord, then I will reneg my criticism. Until then, go vomit your big-business-ass-kissing diatribe to someone who cares...
Redhead, millions of Americans work their asses off everyday making minimum wage. Your entire premise is that they are not rich because they have not worked as hard as Mitt Romney (or any other extremely wealthy pompous ass that feels entitled to screw over the average American).
Are YOU extremely wealthy? Did you simply just "work harder"?
Or maybe it's true that wealth is far more easy to attain once you have the benefit of elite society, political favors, and large amounts of disposable income with which to invest, hmm?
Very "conservative" of you, Redhead. Very typical of what's wrong with this country.
Patriot of what?? Lost causes??
He's got my vote..
Indy,
So if "hard work" is not what makes people succesful what is it??? Luck??
As for Romney, he worked very hard for his money and he is entitled to help his kds out. You bitterness is not a pretty trait. Stop blaming people for being successful and direct your outrage at the people who take from the system instead of those who contribute to the system.
Redhead ranting.....
"For the life of me I can't understand how half the country can whine about those who have more than them. When did American become a bunch of whining, sniveling, jealous little brats?"
If that isn't the greatest example of the pot calling the kettle black.....even your name suggests you're a whiner!
davec,
What is there for me to prove. You were complaining that the Romney's were successful because of all the advantages they got from Mitt. well, too bad...if you sit around waiting for someone to give you something you've got a long wait.
I didn't inheret one penny...paid for my own education and I'm very successful. Just in case you didn't realize it, most successful people get that way because they are smart, work hard and take risks. Try it sometime.
My confusion came from why you brought my own life into it, while in my post I didn't mention myself at all. I was merely attempting to clarify to an earlier poster in the thread who seemed convinced that Mitt's kids were independant/didn't need their father's money.
In no way am I "sitting around waiting for someone to give [me] something," I have long since accepted the fact that I wasn't born into the same fortune that Taggart, Tanner, Tigit, Targalac, and Tic-Tac were born into, and that I have to work my ass off to be successful on my own dime.
Indy, you live in America you can live a dream, but you have to start something with the end in mind,with this said no way would you be able to turn a profit, as your foul mouth will make a difference in who would trust you with there money. Where much is given much is expected and I believe Governor Romney is an example of this quote. Also, you can tell a person by the friends he keeps and we see how well that is by our liar-in-chief friends, so you must run around with a great group of friends, with filthy mouths which most principle people don't want to be around. Good Luck, you might find more success in life if you can talk more civilize instead of like a dumb/ignorant teenager.
Indy I work a lot harder than most earning min wage. A lot harder. I also take risks, big risks. Most people do as much work as they need to to bring home their paycheck or unemployment check. Most people don't work any harder than they have to. If they did we wouldn't have half the country on some kind of gov assistance.
Giving someone government assistance generally only keeps them on the dole. Take away the assistance and it's amazing how resourceful people can be. Most people who get unemployment don't find a job until the unemployment is just about to run out. I know, they shouldn't have to take jobs beneath them.
Sgt. Pepper what are you talking about? How is this the pot calling the kettle black? Seriously, if you are going to attack my opinion or question, as it were, at least have a point to make and then try to back it up. Pulling my moniker into it doesn't support your assumption that I am a whiner at all.
For the record I whine about you lazy ass libs who just want everything to be fair (but without actually doing any work to earn the money you want to take from me). I whine about that a lot because banging my head in frustration isn't working.
Sgt...
America listens to it's President whining about those who have succeeded since he entered the Oval Office in '09. He's good at getting folks to believe that their shortcomings in life are the fault of those who have done well. The only people with money this president has any use for are those who send him money or those who say they wish they'd pay more in taxes...although none of them voluntarily send in an extra nickel at tax time.
I don't understand why being educated and managing money well is a bad thing? Every politician running for POTUS and the people paying for their campaigns are far wealthier than most of America. Politicians trying to make Americans feel like they are just like the rest of us is just ludacris. They aren't, and quite honestly-I wouldn't vote for you if you were. Most of the people in America can't balance their check book-I don't want them anywhere near our natioanl budget. Romney's slogan should be more "I'm nothing like you" and people should understand that is a good thing. America voted in George W. Bush (TWICE!) because he was someone they wanted to have a beer with (eventhough he doesn't drink). I have enough drinking buddies, I'd rather have a competent president.
Guess what people? The American dream is dead!! The U.S. ranks MUCH lower in upward economic mobility compared to most countries including Canada, UK, Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden.
http://www.brookings.edu/research/articles/2011/11/09-economic-mobility-winship
If you want to get rich, move out of America! The US is becoming a third world country with the rich staying on top and the serfs on the bottom!
Can you believe these people? Upset and yapping about a father providing for his children. We give to our children. Private education, cars, higher education, $$ to get a home established. I view giving my money, that I worked for to mMY kids, as my right. Oh, that's right, I forgot, my kids can forget it, I'm supposed to give to those less fortunate. Those spawn by crack head street breeders. To all those crying about him giving to his kids, sorry you didn't have parents that gave to you like Romney gives to his kids. Disgusting fools.
Mitt grew up with a silver spoon in both ends, if he hadn't he wouldn't be where he is today.
Mitt's father was the chairman and CEO of American Motors. By the time Mitt was twelve, his father had become a nationally known figure in print and on television.
Where did Mitt work so hard and become successful?
Indy Patriot:
You are what's wrong with this country. Not everyone can be rich. You can be smart but don't want to put in the time, you want to go home at 5. Most people start a business in their garage and go without nice cars and eat rice and beans in the beginning, but they work hard, have the drive, are smart and have an idea. Those are the 4 things needed to succeed. If Romney's boys received money from dad to start a business, more power to them! If the business succeeds it just means they are smart like their dad is. Stop being envious of people who have more than you. Obama is certainly guilty of stirring this pot in America. He is always attacking the rich and pitting the have nots against them.
Redhead ranting.....
"For the life of me I can't understand how half the country can whine about those who have more than them. When did American become a bunch of whining, sniveling, jealous little brats?"
Maybe when their jobs were taken from them and outsourced overseas. Maybe when they lost their jobs and then lost everything after that. Maybe when the stress of it broke up families, etc.
And I do not think our country has become a bunch of whining sniveling, jealous little brats, except in the 1% including the leaders in Congress. Talk about welfare, they really are on it.
I do not care how much Mitt's sons love him, etc., etc., he is not presidential material. Any man who wants to be President of the United States is not one who takes his money outside of the United States. He had better release a lot of years of tax returns. I want to see. This is bigger than the birther issue. A lot bigger.
redhead.....Most people do as much work as they need to to bring home their paycheck or unemployment check. Most people don't work any harder than they have to. If they did we wouldn't have half the country on some kind of gov assistance.
Seriously?? You sound awfully anti-American if you think MOST Americans don't work any harder than they have to. Verrrrry anti-american.......
So when that happened, their jobs were taken away, what did they do? Did they just stand there holding their d*cks waiting for someone to come along and give them another job?
Listen, I don't like outsourcing anymore than you do but that's part of the cost of freedom. When things like this happen what do most people do? They used to go out and find another job. Now they sit on unemployment for 99 weeks and let the government take care of them. They don't start businesses of their own, they don't write great books or invent the next fad toy. They sit on their butts watching Judge Judy or Cops waiting for someone to tell them what to do.
That's what's wrong with our country.
For all of you bitching about the outsourced jobs I ask you this, what kind of car do you drive?
redhead: A lot of women lost their jobs. Single mothers, they did not have a dick to hang onto.
We are not a nation of good jobs anymore. We are a nation of service jobs. You cannot pay for a home, car and food, clothing on minimum wage and that is what the jobs are. Very few of the professional ones. But, they will come back, it may take a little longer, but they will come back. Americans just have to stop buying the crap that is coming back into our country.
99 weeks to look for a job when there is no jobs is not a long period of time.
What have cars got to do with too much of anything now days. Thanks to President Obama we are becoming a world leader again in that field now. In my family we have a 1995 Chrysler LHS (Mine) 1991 Ford Tempo (granddaughter) 1992 Chevrolet Corsica (granddaughter). Not bad, right?
I am so glad I do not live inside the hateful head of yours.
He just gets too much enjoyment out of firing Americans and sending their jobs to China.
Slightly old I am one of those single mothers you speak of without a d*ck to hang onto. I didn't go on unemployment, I worked my ass off to find a new job and when that didn't materialize, because this economy sucks, I made my own job.
There are plenty of jobs out there but no one wants them because they don't pay enough or they aren't good enough or whatever the excuse of the day is. If everyone went out and got a crappy job instead of sucking off the tit of this country we might have come out of this thing a lot sooner but it was beneath most everyone to take a job that either paid less or was entry level. So instead the gov supported everyone who couldn't find a job like the one they had before.
What happened to doing what was necessary?
We are a nation of lemmings, waiting around for someone, anyone, to lead. So far no one has stepped up to the plate.
It isn't the responsibility of the government to provide you, or anyone else, with a job. It is the government's responsibility to protect this country so you have the freedom to build your own business.
How can you just throw away your liberty like that and hand it over to the government? do you even know you have done it? What will you do when there is no government left? Who will care for you then? You better figure that out because if we keep heading in this direction the government won't be able to help you or anyone else and you will be forced to take care of yourself. And god help you then.
For the record, I'm very compassionate. I just don't want the government telling me who I have to support.
In all the posts, I have not heard anybody talk about how much Obama will help his children. Do you think he will not be there with his checkbook when they need something. Are they going to go to community college and work a minimum wage job at McDonald's while in college... I don't think so! Obama will do the same thing as Romney did with his children, give them the best he can give. Any parent would. Quit giving Romney a hard time about helping his sons. It's pathetic and irrelevant to the job he could do as President of the United States!
Redhead Ranting....
The notion that people attain Mitt-level success from "working harder" is flawed...his kind of rich stems from old money, old boys network and luck. Telling somebody that "working harder" is the answer is the same failed idea that is taught to children in school...that if you "work hard enough" you can be anything....WRONG...if someone doesn't have the aptitude for math/science they are not going to be a rocket scientist...no matter how hard they work. Mitt grew up learning (from daddy) how to manipulate people and situtations for personal gain, that's it.
Sorry a bit late on a response. I was just merely pointing out the fact that one of the sons was given his start, surely he did make a career out of it or I couldn't discuss it. My father is very wealthy, not mitt wealthy but enough where he could easily spare 6-7 figures and be fine. But my father told me that this money was his because he earned it. If I wanted to be rich I had to do it myself, he even made me pay for my own college. I do not resent him one bit for it. I know the value of a dollar and a hard days work. Not saying that people who start off more fortunate do not know a hard days work, but it is easier to make something out of something, than something from nothing. Havent made my millions yet, but as an engineer I hope I am on my way.
I drive a ford btw. And buy american whenever I can, even if it costs more.
morlack - What happened to michelle's job when Obama won? Was it maybe a made up job? Udder Hypocrisy!!!!!
If my job is going to be outsourced, I want it to be by someone who is charming and goofy (and preferably with good hair). Oh, Romney, you've got it all.
I wouldn't mind goofy charm if it wasn't his only attribute.
We're what, 4 months from the election? And his sons say his 'true identity will come out'?
Romney has yet to simply tell us his ideas on how he plans to fulfill his promises to do everything Obama couldn't... what's he waiting for, midnight hour?
I am not worried whether or no he is goffy. I am much more concerned about what he will do to our country with his policies, whatever they are. I do not think he has any clue how the middle class has to work and struggle, and neither do his sons. I do not envy them for their riches, just think he is not the man to run our country.
He couldn't be any worse than what we have now. King devisive is ruling the world.
Patti, I appreciate your opinion. But, are you sure he couldn't be worse. Remember what Grover Norquist said about electing someone, anyone as long they have the right number of fingers to sign the laws, etc. that they want in.
Now, Cheney is right by his side. And how about the people Bush had is now on Mr. Romney's team.
And how about our Congress striking down so many bills to help out our beautiful country and its wonderful people. As a woman are you sure you would have any rights left after Congress gets through with their vagina issues. Mitt will sign them all in. That is what Norquist and the TP/Republicans are "praying" for.
What happens if the personhood goes thru and the health care is demonished. If a fetus is a person instantly then what happens when born with a defect..down, bad heart, etc. That would be considered a pre-existing condition.
Are you sure Mitt couldn't be any worse. I personally think he absolutely would be.
"Goofy"--Yes
"Charm"--No
Most people who wear magic underwear are likely to be Goofy. Every election I hope the new candidate can't be any worse than what we have now but I am always disappointed.
There is a thought. Elect Romney President of China and he can outsource jobs to the USA!
Hope some of those grandkids can vote..he needs all the votes he can get..he's wasting his time no doubt about that.
Yes Mike, with sheep like you that are taken to slaughter and have no idea what this President agenda is doing to our liberties and freedoms, all you have to do is look to Greece, maybe Spain, Italy and see what his policies will bring to you and your children, I don't want this and that is why I will not vote for the liar-in-chief, all words no action, I'm focused on creating jobs, heard that for 4 straight years, and 41 months straight of unemployment over 8%, and the most jobs lost by any president in history, please wake up and think for yourself.
Wrong John. I DO know what Obama "is doing to our liberties and freedoms". He's trying to implement policies that will assure a stonger economic future. A future that includes improved infrastructure, energy independance, higher education opportunities for all and a fairer tax code. Please wake up and think for yourself.
Greece is an excellent example of Republican tax policies....the rich there simply do not have to pay taxes.
I never care if a politician's family likes him. Makes no difference. Hitler's dogs loved him too.
We need goofy charm more than we need ineffectual leadership based on a spend all you can and let future generations worry about how to pay for it ideology. In other words we need Romney far more than we need Obama.
The financial trouble the country is in started in 1980 with Ronnie Raygun and was magnified by Dubya's illegal war in Iraq when he mortgaged the U.S. to China to finance it. So don't blame Obama for these problems - he inherited them.
Obama/Biden 2012
Amen!....But since most of the liberals have closed their eyes and minds to the chaos of Obama and want him back, then they deserve what they get! Believe me, when all of his "changes" really start hitting where they live, you will hear a cacophony of moans and whinings the likes of which you've never heard before...
Disney - you will hear all that and more if Romney gets in!! How can you support a man that hasn't yet told us what he plans on doing to make everything right!! He can't 'CREATE" jobs just as Obama can't. He can't repeal the ACA his first day in office!! He can't make gas cheaper, etc.! There are a lot of things he can't do because he has to work with Congress and with the economics of the day and as we all know, Congress is worthless!! I'll take less goofy and more down to earth solutions!
Glad to see his sons defending him, none of them wanted to defend our country.
I don't know I've seen Obama be goofy and that @!$%# is hilarious/charming. But when Romney does it, it just feels forced and awkward. The guy really is out of touch.
Not that being goofy has anything to do with weather or not they'd make a good president. This is obviously a saving face article for Romney because of all the retarded things he says.
"Retarded" things??? Another class act Obama supporter.
and yet more faux outrage from a Romney supporter. Since when did you get so p.c.?
A second class act comes to the defense of the first.
Westbury
And........Your second grade twitter sized attempts at humor show your ignorance.
@westbury64
Retard: A person who is stupid, obtuse, or ineffective in some way: a hopeless social retard.
Seemed fitting enough for me. Sorry I don't believe in censorship. You of course have the right to be offended. And I'm honestly glad that you are. =D
Are all those boys from his five different wives? No girls, mmmmmm! Maybe they're not allowed on camera but I wonder.
Aw, poor John. Still hanging on to that fantasy that Republican presidents are deficit cutters.
Goofy is great for an uncle that comes to holiday dinners. Goofy is acceptable within a family. But it has no place in the presidency of this country. Our enemies are pretty serious and if they see goofy to begin with, there will be less respect - and less restraint than there is now.
yeah it's so much better to have a president that apologizes to our enemies!
@tlb1974
It takes courage to apologize if one is wrong. People/ countries make mistakes. It takes intelligence and courage to recognize the fact and own up to it.
Being bully or an obstinate blowhard is not an admirable trait.
So when is President Obama going to apologize to the American people about his policies that have failed, no he just keeps on being a bully, suing States, doesn't enforce laws, and passes the worst tax increase on the American people with his so call, healthcare plan which people still have no idea what is in the bill/2700 pages or an obstinate blowhard, you know the definition of insanity, doing the same thing and thinking you'll get a different answer, thanks for describing our current liar-in-chief
John, perhaps you should sit down and relook at all your talking points.
It sounds like you have the talking points in front of you and you are typing from them. Hope the pay is worth it?
Johnny
Probably when conservatives admit that their icon Ronald Reagan was one of the most overrated Presidents ever.
We dont need a goofy president.
We already have one. Did you hear him yesterday trying to act like he's a "regular guy" when asked about Girl Scout cookies? He said he likes the "mint ones". Everyone I've ever met refers to them as "thin mints", not "the mint ones". If Romney had said that the Libs would be screaming that he is "out of touch".
I take it Westbury you are a girl scout for being able to know the exact name so well. Wow...why aren't you trying to be president? Wow...the country needs a girl who can name her cookies! Wow ...you have friends that call them "thin mints"...wow!
westbury...you sure are not out of touch....wow...I am impressed.
Really Westbury? That's the best you've got? I call GS cookies the mint ones too. They show up once a year...I don't know the names of any of them, I just know the ones I like. Nobody is a regular guy who is a President. I don't want a regular guy as President. What I do want is someone who is not goofy and who is serious about his job and who has a better understanding of the world as a whole. Romney is none of these things. He is a one sided businessman, and he is naive and another puppet for the GOP. We should be worried about who would really be running things, because God knows it won't be Romney should he by some unfortunate circumstance actually get elected.
I like the peanut butter sandwichy ones - what are those called again, Westbury?
DM,
What a bunch of BS you are spewing. The ONLY thing the Dems have on Romney is that "he's out of touch and not a regular guy". That's the entire basis of the ridiculous attacks on tax returns, Bain Capital, investments, etc. Romney was an extremely succe3sful businessman who managed the Olympics, a state and a huge private sector firm. He should be everything you are looking for. The claim the "someone else" would be running things is preposterous. He is a hugely successful guy and every insider says HE controls everything around him.
You try to make the "correct" arguments but all we will hear is bank accounts...investments..tax returns..etc.
@Westbury: "The ONLY thing the Dems have on Romney is that "he's out of touch and not a regular guy"."
Umm - no. There's a few more things than just that.
If by "Goofy" they mean clueless and out of touch, sure, OK.
No, we CURRENTLY have "clueless and out of touch". They just meant goofy.
Westbuty64 - if you mean we have a President that is honestly trying to do something with a do nothing congress or do you want a President that gave money away, started a war we couldn't afford and still couldn't accomplish anything except put us in debt. Why hasn't he come out in support of his fellow Republican or was that minute run in on the elevator his way of saying "good luck cleaning up my mess"!!
MR hasn't shown anything other then being out of touch.
high,
Are you seriously STILL campaigning against George Bush????
A "do-nothing Congress" that was overwhelmingly controlled by Dems his first two years in office. The Repub takeover in 2010 wasn't an accident! It was the American people saying STOP THIS MAN before he completely destroys our country.
the to go to on this is .YOR FATHER PIONEERED OUTSORCING OF JOBS HELD BY CITIZENS AND VETERANS TO NAME 2 GROUPS. when you speak to a person from India or some other non christian country no matter not being able to understand them or setting aside the fact they are less honest in their dealings than
americans are. its because your father pioneered outsorcing.millions of famlies have been hurt by jobs going overseas thanks to those Bush gave away the store to. and your dad was one.
I have had missionaries in my house they do not know the bible so how can they teach it. simply they can not and don't they teach joseph smithism.
Did you bother to run a spelling and grammar check on your post? It might help your efforts to slam someone if you actually made any sense!
Obama must be outsourcing his paid bloggers
David, sorry you didn't listen to the Spirit because people are taught by the Spirit, hopefully someday you'll have them into your home again, as the Lords church has been restored to the earth, please read Ephesians 1:10
That reminds me that Mickey mouse had to divorce Minnie because she was f__ng goofy. No wait, this is Romney. Sorry, couldn't help myself.
And all five sons are on the campaign payroll making millions in fees.
Who cares??? Romney is worth a quarter billion dollars....do you think he needs to scam a few million here or there. Jeez...stopping being so damn envious..it's not a very good trait.
Not sure where you got that from.
WB64....The "fees" MR's sons are getting are from campaign contributions, dumb ass! not paid from MR's personal funds!
Fed Up,
So your position is that a guy worth $250 million dollars would risk political embarrassment and criminal charges just to funnel a few million to his sons????
He is simply on an ego trip of enormous size. His Father couldn't make it, he couldn't make the first time either. Must be something about him ya think??
Let Disney hire him, we had 8 years of Goofy with Bush. Off topic, do you feel Viacom is cutting viewers to The Daily Show and The Colbert Report as a political form of censorship ? If you are GOP and a Mitten supporter it's a smart move.
Boromirr...I thought the same thing when they quit showing those two shows.....Censorship.
Certainly not out of the realm of possibility...does seem a wee bit targeted. However, I don't think Mitten supporters watch them. They wouldn't get the humor and commentary. And I don't watch FOX or Rush...waste of my precious time. I still have the access, but if it ever went away, there's always online! If they believe it's true, you can believe Stewart and Colbert will be all over this, as well they should.
They just cut full episodes from the Internet. These 2 programs reach 20 million plus, and they tell the truth, it is not made up, they let the GOP speak for themselves, in context. Mitt wouldn't be able to lie his way through the campaign.
he needs not to be president to "give back to the country"
It is just a political way to mean "I want the highest job of the land"
It means, "being a billionaire isn't enough, I want to be in charge of trillion$"
Do you mean trillions of dollars of debt Doug?
At the time of the first Depression corporations paid $150 in taxes for every dollar the citizens/working stiffs paid. they now pay .25 cents to our dollar. Then the banks and businesses (corporations) who have whittled away all the laws and rules designed to reign them in loan the government they have eviscerated and make $$$ in interest instead of paying their fair share of taxes. That is why it is important for this person vying for the top job to reveal his tax records. Why should John McCain (who then passed on him for vp) see them and not us?
I wouldn't mind the OWS movement...except for the fact that its only attribute is being loser-centric.
I wish Romney was a community organizer. That would be swell.
Plastic father. Plastic sons. Could have come out of a cornflakes box. No idea any of them.
I'm doing my level best to be impartial but I'm finding very difficult to do. I have a visceral negative reaction when I see Romney and his family. They all seem way too robotic and coached.
I had a similar experience in '96 when Bob Dole ran. He gave an interview the day after he lost the election and he came accross normal and extemely likable. I would have voted for the guy I saw that day.
All of this "height of the trees is right" stuff and singing America the beautiful is a bridge too far for me. I don't need an entertainer, I need a president.
They seem more like clones of their dad rather than sons, a bit like Boba Fett was to Jango Fett.
I'll tell whats goofy - how come any of the five sons NEVER served in the military?...oh yes, I forgot - that job is for the rest of us 99%'ers. What's goofy (and frightening) is that the old man would not think twice about sending other kids off to war as well.
"the 99%'ers" reference...so you must be not just a Democrat, but a liberal, probably a white one. And you're talking about "us" serving in the armed forces.
That's such a weird concept: a white liberal in the military. Can't imagine. Maybe back in like 1960.
JestyPuller - Take yer head out of yer know what and look around. 99%'ers are the Americans that live and struggle in the REAL world and not the white bread ZombieRomney supporters you typically see at his rallies.
JestyPuller: Btw - I am not a "liberal" nor did I serve. I consider myself an independent that leans more social conservative. I grew up in the sixties and while not serving in the military I respect all of those that put their lives on the line, then and now. However, I cannot help but see thru the Romney and far right BS.
Oh but they went overseas to spread Mormonism like when daddy Willard Romney went to Paris. Such giving, such hardship, such sacrifice.
He avoided military service at the height of the fighting after high school by
seeking and receiving four draft deferments, according to Selective Service records. They included college deferments and a 31-month stretch as a “minister of religion” in France, a classification for Mormon missionaries that the church at the time feared was being overused.
Not everyone in the military is from a poor family. My father went to a private school, his father was a surgeon (who was attached to the marines in WWII) and a muti-millionaire with a double doctorate and my father decided to drop out of college and volunteer for the Army. My grandfather got him stationed away from Vietnam at the time and my father hated where he was and then volunteered for Vietnam while in the service. He then came back and decided to go into government service as a Police Chief, which he still is! So spare me your 99% military only theory! (On a sadder note - If I ever want to talk to one of his platoon mates from Vietnam, I have to visit the wall. They were all killed just a week after my father was done with his 1 year commitment!)
Secretly, liberal women dream of one of Romney's sons carrying them away to a white picket fenced house in the suburbs, and being in a stable marriage with them for the next 60 years.
Wha...?? Dream as in you mean an Ozzie and Harriet show existence?? Father Knows Best?? A Walt Disney version of "family"???
Chesty puller....put down your romance novels and step into reality........
LOL Chesty Puller. Dream on. That would be one boring life! Actually, I think you have it backwards. They probably dream about dating "real women."
Now that is GOOFY! Chesty he would need to retreat back to his retroactive world to resurrect that dream - what can we do to help?
Chesty: Secretly, liberal women wish they were left alone to decide their lifestyle, their healthcare, their career options and their religious views. The days when men were "in charge" are over. To think in any other way is backwards and plain goofy.
Chesty
You must not have been around for the Vietnam War. Duh.... why do you think it was called the poor man's war? Your ignorance is remarkable.
Stop Loss, hey moron, can't quite figure out, even for an idiot, how this is a response to either comment...where did Vietnam come in?
Most US wars lately in the last decade or two are really fought by the lower middle class. Especially lower middle class whiteys.