By Jessica Hopper
Rock Center
UPDATED: Former Penn State assistant coach Jerry Sandusky admitted to showering and horsing around with young boys, but said he is not a pedophile, in an exclusive interview with Bob Costas broadcast Monday night on NBC's Rock Center.
"I say that I am innocent of those charges," Sandusky said in the phone interview.
When asked by Costas, "Are you a pedophile," Sandusky responded, "No."
Joe Paterno’s one-time defensive coordinator was charged earlier this month with 40 criminal counts accusing him of sexual abuse of minors. He is currently free on a $100,000 bond and has denied any wrongdoing. The allegations date back to 1994, according to the grand jury report filed November 5 in Pennsylvania state court. The report detailed claims of alleged sexual encounters with as many as eight boys in Sandusky's home, hotels and Penn State locker rooms.
"I could say that I have done some of those things. I have horsed around with kids. I have showered after workouts. I have hugged them and I have touched their legs without intent of sexual contact," said Sandusky.
When asked by Costas to concede any wrongdoing, Sandusky said, "I shouldn't have showered with those kids."
Sandusky's attorney, Joseph Amendola, verified Sandusky's voice and asserted his client's innocence.
"I believe in Jerry's innocence. Quite honestly, Bob, that's why I'm involved in the case," Amendola said.
"We expect we're going to have a number of kids, now how many of those so called eight kids we're not sure, but we anticipate we're going to have at least several of those kids come forward and say this never happened. This is me, this is the allegation, it never occurred. In fact, one of the toughest allegations...what [Mike] McQueary said he saw, we have information that that child said that never happened," Amendola said.
McQueary is currently on paid administrative leave from his job as an assistant coach for Penn State's football team. In 2002, while a graduate assistant, he witnessed Sandusky allegedly engaged in a sexual act with a minor in the Penn State locker room's showers, according to the grand jury report. He told Paterno what he witnessed, according to the grand jury testimony.
Sandusky said McQueary's claims are false.
"We were showering and horsing around and he [the boy] actually turned all the showers on and was actually sliding across the floor and we were, as I recall, possibly like snapping a towel," Sandusky said. McQueary's allegations were never reported to the police.
Sandusky also addressed allegations that he apologized to the mother of one of the alleged victims and said "I wish I were dead" in 1998.
"I didn't say, to my recollection, that I wish I were dead. I was hopeful that we could reconcile things," Sandusky said.
The scandal has tarnished the reputation of the once-heralded football program, leading to the departure of coaching legend Paterno and three other university officials. It’s also left students and residents of State College, Penn., shocked. Sandusky said that right now isn't "the best days of my life."
"How would you think I would feel about a university that I attended, about people that I worked with, about people that I care so much about and how do you think I would feel about it? I feel horrible," Sandusky said.
When asked if he felt responsible for damaging Penn State's image, Sandusky said, "I don't think it's my fault. I've obviously played a part in this, but I don't think I should be accused as I have been."
The sight of 67-year-old Sandusky in handcuffs is hard to reconcile with his public image of a devoted father of six adopted kids who founded a charity to help at risk youth. That charity, The Second Mile, has also come under fire.
According to the grand jury report, all of the alleged sex abuse victims met Sandusky through their participation in The Second Mile. Sandusky founded the charity in 1977 as a group foster home for troubled boys. It spawned into a non-profit organization that has raised millions of dollars to help young boys and girls. Today, Chief Executive Officer Jack Raykovitz’s resignation was announced by the non-profit organization’s board of directors.
Sandusky gave up his day-to-day duties at The Second Mile in 2010. While Sandusky retired from Pennsylvania State University in 1999, he continued to have access to Penn State’s facilities.
"I don't know what I can say or what I could say that would make anybody feel any different now. I would just say that if somehow people could hang on until my attorney has a chance to fight for my innocence, that's about all I can ask right now. Obviously, it's a huge challenge," Sandusky said.
When asked if he had a sexual attraction to underage boys, Sandusky said, "I enjoy young people. I love to be around them, but no, I'm not sexually attracted to young boys."
Editor's Note: In an earlier edition of this report, we mistakenly identified a location of Sandusky's alleged sexual encounters as Paterno's home. According to the grand jury report, it was Sandusky's home.









Sure thing jacka$$ - that was another 56 year old man that looks like you anally raping some 10 year old boy in the PSU coaches shower. Nice try you sick POS - don't worry though - it will be a very very very short prison stint for you given how well received child rapist are in prison
If only that were true. Unfortunately, pedophiles are segregated from the general population for their own protection.
Michael - I'm guessing that sooner or later - he will get his in prison. These things have a way of working themselves out in there.
Did his lawyer tell him it was OK to say he is innocent? The first time he was asked that question his response was " I really can't say anything on the advice of my attorney." If I had been accused of any serious crime of which I was not guilty, much less something as disgusting as child rape, I would be screaming that I was innocent, no matter what some lawyer told me. Sometimes the guilty protest that they are innocent, but the innocent ALWAYS do so.
As far as I'm aware, the grand jury report claimed abuse took place in Sandusky's home, not Paterno's home.
writer of article/made a mistake at end of 4th paragraph/put the cheeseburger down.
He's headed to the place where they 'invented' horsing around in the shower. Bubba, leroy and company will give him a long indoctrination in the fine details of it soon.
Nice thought, but unfortunately, as a pedophile, he will be placed in protective segregation in prison.
@Patrick A. Maher
In Paterno's home!?!?!?!? Is that right? If so, we have a whole new problem.
I see nothing in this article stating that. Believe me, by no means am I supporting former Coach Paterno but I don't see this statement or a statement alluding to this in the article.
Someone at NBC just edited "Paterno's house" to "Sandusky's house." Colossal error by NBC.
Oh, well then we should move on now that we know he is innocent.
Sandusky's Home not Paterno's. There is enough misinformation out there on this story can we at least get the basic facts correct.
Is he kidding?? Who the hell does he think will believe him? unreal!
Typo fixed, thank you
WHOA! Jessica - you have a SERIOUS error in this piece. The GJ report never once gives ANY indication that any alleged abuse or misconduct ever occurred at Paterno's home. Please edit & correct before every troll starts tweeting that this happened in Joe Paterno's home. The GJ report cites acts that occurred at Sandusky's home.
Do any online news outlets have editors or fact checkers anymore? Sheesh.
Sure, I believe his story that it was just innocent fooling around. I also believe that Senator Larry Craig was just reaching down under the stall in the men's room to pick up a dirty piece of toilet paper with his bare hands.
Shame on Rock Center for pandering to this scumbag. Let him have his say in court, not through the media.
Bob Costas, Brian Williams and NBC should be ashamed of themselves.
How can you make a mistake like that?? Paterno's home?? Doesn't anyone proof read this stuff?
How about getting the story to match up: At the beginning of the piece, it says some events happened in Paterno's home, in hotels and on the Penn State campus. At the end of the story it says the victims said they were molested in Sandusky's home, in hotels and on the Penn State campus. Please be clear--and try not to run over poor Paterno's moral body more than you have proof of.
The Big Question: How many people have to be lying for Jerry Sandusky to be telling The Truth??
'nuf said.
Nice job in sensationalizing the facts Jessica Hopper. Journalistic prerogative?
Wow! Cain never sexually harassed any women and now this guy's innocent as well. All charges are false. Amazing. At least we now finally have the truth on both stories.
So we're supposed to believe that McQueary made up the graphic details that he told the grand jury of what he saw in the shower, those same details that were never reported to police? That all he saw was horsing around in the shower? What about the hands up against the wall, etc.? There is no way that was made up by McQueary, and that is something you don't forget or have any doubt about what you're seeing.
Perhaps the reason crimes like these leave such scars on the victims is because our society attaches such a huge stigma to them. (I'm far from the first person to believe that.) Rape counselors go to great lengths to help women realize that it wasn't their fault and that being raped doesn't make them any less of a person. But, we seem to do the exact opposite for kids who are molested.
Jessica Hopper you and your editors need to get your act together, Paterno's home is a typo. I've lost respect for MSNBC website.
I'd refuse to represent this vile piece of sh#$.
I read the grand jury report also and there were TWO EYE WITNESSES. The janitor of 7 or 8 months told his supervisor what he had seen and he was crying and very upset and upset his entire life. He is, as one poster said, a lying piece of Sh---t. He should be wearing an ankle monitor but no, the judge volunteers for that childlren's foundation where he groomed his victims. Six adopted children, I bet, I bet that some are also victims.
You can be assured of that one.
He is an sick animal. I believe an eye for an eye. Provide the chance for him to go thru what these young kids had gone thru for years.